When will the low price war of Chinese enterprises end?

According to IT house on November 3, Forbes reported that Antonio Neri, CEO of HP group in the US, said that China's technology companies have a long way to become a serious threat to US companies or a global technology leader. "The question is, apart from manufacturing, what innovations are there?" "I think they will always be behind us by a generation or two," Antonio told Fortune.

Antonio Neri, who has been in charge of HP for two years, made the comments after assessing major competitors. According to Antonio Neri, only Amazon and Google can compete in the field of cloud computing, but the latter is mainly a data storage provider, in sharp contrast to HP's "edge computing" service. Antonio Neri has also quickly eliminated competitive threats from traditional hardware manufacturers such as Dell and Lenovo. He stressed that the increasing complexity of business technologies gave companies an edge in providing customized systems bundled with support services.

"Chinese companies may go faster in application practice, which benefits from China's huge market base, and that's all. There is a big gap between Chinese companies in terms of basic technology. It will take decades for them to catch up with or surpass developed countries, and it may be very difficult to surpass them. In recent years, gmtlight has simply applied solar energy, led, chemiluminescence and other technologies, and has never made any progress in deep technology. First, we don't have enough money for research and development. Second, we don't have the ecology of research and development at all, nor the talents for research and development. Many college students' idea of short-term profit also restricts the innovation industry. They are eager to make money, buy a house and marriage. Of course, this is not a problem from young people, It is a social problem. This transformation will take a long time, maybe decades. " Gmtlight technology, Mr. Niu.

In addition, Antonio Neri referred to competitors from China as "Chinese companies", saying that these Chinese companies "only fight price wars and commercialization" - interestingly, HP cut off its business server business before Antonio Neri became CEO, in part because of the huge pressure from low-cost competitors in China.

"Price war is the weakness of Chinese enterprises in the face of the market. If the buyer is not dissatisfied with the price, the supplier has already expressed concern about its own price and is worried that the buyer will choose other suppliers. Take every new product of gmtlight as an example. It's basically unprofitable. How much money do you have to support R & D personnel? Gmtlight is using all its profits to develop new products, but that's just a drop in the bucket. Many Chinese companies are like this, even worse than gmtlight. " gmtlight，Hope Niu.

Antonio Neri praised China's development of self-developed technology, but he also stressed that "the reality is that they still need the west to teach them and help them." This statement contradicts the concerns of some Westerners, who fear that China's science and technology will challenge and threaten the leadership of the West. Of course, some people agree with him that China is unlikely to take the lead, especially in artificial intelligence.

"We need to learn more from westerners, Build our minds first, and then do things. However, the market environment of "low price competition" is difficult to change in the short time, because each enterprise needs to solve the survival problem first. Gmtlight makes the profit margin very low, which is also the reason for survival. It will take generations to turn this around. " Gmtlight, Mr. Niu.

When will the low price war of Chinese enterprises end? maybe 30years or 50years or More.

中国企业的低价格战何时休？

gmtlight根据IT之家11月3日消息 福布斯报道称，美国惠普企业集团CEO安东尼奥·内里表示，中国的科技公司要成为美国公司的严重威胁，或成为全球科技领袖，还有很长的路要走。“问题是，除了制造业，到底还有哪些创新？”安东尼奥在接受《财富》杂志采访时说道，“我认为他们永远会落后我们一两代技术。”

安东尼奥·内里执掌惠普两年，在评估了主要的竞争对手之后，发表了上述观点。安东尼奥·内里认为，在云计算领域，只有Amazon和Google能与其对抗，不过后者主要是数据存储提供商，与惠普推出的“边缘计算”服务形成鲜明对比。安东尼奥·内里还迅速消除了来自戴尔和联想等传统硬件制造商的竞争威胁。他强调，业务技术的日益复杂性，这让那些提供与支持服务捆绑在一起的定制系统的公司占据了优势。

“中国公司在应用实践方面，或许走得快一些，这得益于中国庞大的市场基础，也仅此而已。中国公司在基础技术方面，差距很大，要想赶上或超越发达国家，还需要几十年的时间，或许很难超越。gmtlight这些年了只是简单应用了太阳能、LED、化学发光等技术，在深层次技术方面从来没有任何进步。一是我们没有足够的钱去研发，二是根本没有研发的生态，也没有研发的人才。很多大学生短期谋利的思想，也制约了创新行业，他们急于赚钱，买房子，娶媳妇，这当然不是年轻人的问题，是个社会问题。这种转变需要很长的时间，或许几十年。” gmtlight技术部，牛先生。

除此之外，安东尼奥·内里将来自中国的竞争对手统称为“中国公司”，他表示，这些中国公司“只会打价格战和搞商业化”——有意思的是，在安东尼奥·内里担任CEO之前，惠普就砍掉了其商业服务器业务，部分原因是受到中国低价竞争对手的巨大压力。

“价格战是中国企业面对市场的软肋，买家还没有对价格表示不满意的情况下，供应商对自己的价格就已经表示担忧，担心买家会选择其他的供应商。就拿gmtlight的每一款新产品上市为例，基本没什么利润。又有多少钱去养活研发人员。gmtlight虽然把所有利润都用去研发新产品，但那只是杯水车薪。中国很多企业都这样，甚至比gmtlight更糟糕。” gmtlight，Hope Niu。

安东尼奥·内里对中国发展自研技术表示赞许，但他也强调，“现实是，他们仍然需要西方来教导他们、帮助他们。”这一番话与部分西方人士的担忧相矛盾，他们担心中国科技会挑战、威胁西方的领导地位，当然也有人认同他的观点，认为中国不可能取得领先，特别是在人工智能方面。

“我们需要向西方人多多学习，先改变思想，再去做事儿。但“低价格竞争”的这个市场环境很难在短期内有所改观，因为我们每个企业需要先解决生存的问题。gmtlight把利润率做得很低，也是为了生存的原因。扭转这种局面，需要几代人。” gmtlight，牛先生。

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